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I Want Katie Klabusich to Keep on Talking!

Posted by Matt Yonke (June 20, 2013 at 11:18 am)
Katie Klabusich

No, Katie! Don’t tape your mouth closed!

A couple weeks ago, I wrote a piece in this space critiquing one aspect of a blog post by pro-abortion activist and blogger Katie Klabusich.

Katie’s post was a scattershot rant about how terrible pro-life sidewalk counselors and prayer partners are (Note: They’re not), in which she repeated the common pro-abortion trope that the images of aborted babies we use in our activism are fake (Note: They’re not).

Katie then “responded” to my piece with another blog post. I put responded in quotes because she didn’t actually address any of my evidence that our pictures are real.

I get it. Like I said in my post, the pictures make it clear that something awful is going on in each and every abortion and that requires a response. Katie’s response, along with many other pro-choice people, is to bury her head in the sand and misdirect people’s attention to other issues.

My Nefarious Hidden Agenda!

But Klabusich implies a nefarious hidden agenda in my addressing her lies about our pictures:

The Pro-Life Action League (PLAL) staffer who penned the “rebuttal” has a clear intent – and it isn’t to reeducate me or to inform the larger public about abortion facts. His sole purpose is to intimidate me and others into silence. The hope is that flooding my site with antichoice propaganda and personal attacks while publishing my picture on the PLAL page will sit me back down and have me looking over my shoulder. Sir, I’m afraid I have bad news:

You can’t intimidate me.

Oh, Katie. Come now. I don’t want to intimidate you or anyone else. That’s totally against my principles and simply not the way I roll. Unlike the pro-abortion people who threw a brick through the window of my employers’ home, or physically assaulted them, or vandalized our offices or vandalized a pro-life billboard and firebombed a pro-life bus in Rockford.

In fact, I want you to talk about abortion as loud and as long as you can physically hold up the effort. I am a vociferous supporter of the First Amendment and your right to be wrong and loud about it.

But even more than that, I hope you continue speaking out about abortion because I think it helps my cause. As my colleague John Jansen often says, I wish the pro-abortion movement had it’s own 24 hour cable channel, because the more people hear what you guys have to say, the less they like it.

People are uncomfortable about abortion. The more they have to think about it, the less they like it. Why else would people react so violently when they encounter pictures of “a simple medical procedure”?

Pro-Choice Activism Just Not That Threatening

Contrary to Klabusich’s baseless allegations in her follow-up post, as of last year people self-identifying as pro-choice were at a record low. That’s why Planned Parenthood got off that sinking ship a few months ago.

The pro-choice movement is in a tizzy at the lack of doctors willing to perform abortions and the fact that abortion clinics have been closing left and right over the last few years.

Katie’s has been one of many voices terrified at the waves and waves of “anti-choice” legislation that have been passing the last several years, and just last month Klabusich was fuming that even the most pro-abortion president in our nation’s history isn’t pro-abortion enough for her.

So I’m not sweating it, Katie. If I was, I would never have commented on your piece in the first place. I care about the truth, and I care about you. I want you to stop advocating for abortion because I think it’s bad for you.

But if you’re gonna do it, shout it from the housetops. Make sure as many people as possible know exactly what you support when you support abortion.

I Only Ask One Thing: Be Honest

The only thing I ask if you’re going to vocally support the dismembering of babies in their mothers’ wombs is that you be honest about it. Here’s what an “abortion doula” who helps women through their abortions had to say about our pictures:

Those pictures pro-life activists flash are real. That is what a fetus looks like when its head is crushed. When you see the procedure, you must decide, as a pro-choice person, whether you are in or out.

I want you to keep talking, Katie. Just acknowledge the truth. You in, or you out?

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  1. Richard L. Kent, Esq. says:

    The unborn had no comment.

    June 20, 2013 at 1:02 pm
  2. Kenneth Houseman says:

    Aside from the sheer number of lies and the overwhelming inaccuracy of the post, I have to point out one thing in particular (that I find exceptionally funny). The author uses this quote from an abortion doula:

    “Those pictures pro-life activists flash are real. That is what a fetus looks like when its head is crushed. When you see the procedure, you must decide, as a pro-choice person, whether you are in or out.”

    However, here is the actual quote, in context:

    “To some extent, Ms. Mitchell sees her point. In an interview with The Observer, she joked that she sometimes wants to automatically reject the abortion doula applications of pro-choice activists, because it’s so hard to go from pro-choice rhetoric to supporting real people who don’t necessarily find their abortions empowering.’Those pictures pro-life activists flash are real,’ Ms. Mahoney said. ‘That is what a fetus looks like when its head is crushed. When you see the procedure, you must decide, as a pro-choice person, whether you are in or out.’ She’s thought about it a lot. ‘I have never been more in,’ she said.”

    Katie Klabusich and I have never been more in. What about you?

    June 20, 2013 at 3:35 pm
  3. Matt Yonke says:

    Ken — Care to point out a lie or inaccuracy?

    All the best,

    Matt

    June 20, 2013 at 3:56 pm
  4. Betsy says:

    “Oh, Katie. Come now. I don’t want to intimidate you or anyone else. That’s totally against my principles and simply not the way I roll. Unlike the pro-abortion people who threw a brick through the window of my employers’ home, or physically assaulted them, or vandalized our offices or vandalized a pro-life billboard and firebombed a pro-life bus in Rockford.”

    So anti-choice ‘advocates’ that murder doctors or fire bomb clinics or intimidate patients (again, no one at PLAL will actually address any of my specific questions so I am fairly certain I will not get an answer now) do not exist? This is NOT the way you “roll”? It is absolutely the way you “roll”. And please stop calling yourselves sidewalk “counselors” and trying to establish this as some sort of charitable work you do. It is not! I have asked before and I will ask again, do you not need a degree or certification to be a “counselor”? I witnessed a couple stopped in the middle of an intersection by a so-called sidewalk “counselor” and from the way this couple was trying to bypass this harassing individual, I refuse to believe this is in anyone best interest other than your groups’ clearly one sided agenda. As soon as I, as a concerned citizen, stepped in and asked if everything was all right, the couple immediately fled the situation! So much for your ‘counseling’….

    Matt, since you seem to believe that you have been given this ‘mission’ by some higher authority (I refuse to use God’s name here as this is positively against any, any teaching of Jesus Christ!), why are you not outside of clinics that perform vasectomies? Shouldn’t men have to ask permission before they cut off their sperm supply and thereby preventing many, many unborn from the gift of life? Another scenario that no one will address what you would do if you were confronted at a clinic by certain religious groups blocking your entrance to a hospital or clinic because their belief is that medical intervention is against “God’s will”? I also posed a question about a dear friend who had a late term abortion during her fourth pregnancy to remove a dead fetus so she would not have to carry it for two more months. Was that not acceptable decision in her best interest? At the time, she was a mother of three and is now the mother of four. Why would anyone want someone to suffer such a tragedy? My sister delivered a baby nearly 40-years-ago that had most of its internal organs missing. The only thing that kept that fetus alive was my sister’s heartbeat. I can state without any hesitation that she would have had an abortion if she knew that once she delivered, that baby would die a horribly painful death by suffocation, not to mention her years of trauma having gone through that horrifying event. It was on that day that I made up my mind that I was Pro-Choice and proud of it.

    June 20, 2013 at 4:43 pm
  5. Kenneth Houseman says:

    Clearly you missed something, Matt – one of the MANY lies is pointed out in my comment above, where you purposefully use a quote out of context to support your cause, even though with context, the quote is clearly against you.

    June 20, 2013 at 5:15 pm
  6. Kenneth Houseman says:

    Matt – when she says “Those pictures pro-life activists flash are real” she is clearly referring to certain anatomically accurate pictures of fetuses that some pro-life person held up once. She is not saying ALL PICTURES HELD UP BY ANY PRO-LIFE PERSON ARE NOT DOCTORED.

    Matt, you have a lot of work to do if you’re interested in journalism. I suggest you begin with community college classes, where they’ll hopefully teach you some basics, such as not to write blatant lies in your articles – not a great technique for trying to be a journalist…

    June 20, 2013 at 5:22 pm
  7. Kenneth Houseman says:

    Lastly, the “No Katie! Don’t tape your mouth closed!” caption under the NO HATE photo of Katie is pretty pathetic.

    You anti-choicers could learn a lot from this http://www.noh8campaign.com/

    June 20, 2013 at 5:24 pm
  8. El Evavold says:

    Matt…you mean after the doula admits that
    the pictures are real she is still “in?” I am a nurse and that
    Makes me sick.

    June 20, 2013 at 5:30 pm
  9. El Evavold says:

    I resent being called anti- choice. I am all for
    freedom of choice except when it comes to
    killing a human being.

    June 20, 2013 at 5:32 pm
  10. Kenneth Houseman says:

    Sorry El, I stopped reading your comment after “i am all for freedom of choice EXCEPT…” Actually, that exception means that you are not all for freedom of choice, and that’s it.

    Though I will say, your first comment strikes me as strange… You think that people who have seen abortions automatically become pro-life? Honey, think about that for just a second. Doctors, nurses, clinicians, biologists, mothers, fathers, and many other people see abortions in their lifetimes. However, as seeing something doesn’t magically make you think it should be illegal, these people still support the right to choose what to do with one’s own body.

    June 20, 2013 at 7:52 pm
  11. Kenneth Houseman says:

    If you resent being called anti-choice, perhaps you should stop limiting human beings’ rights to choose what happens to their bodies.

    In the mean time, as you are decidedly anti-choice, perhaps you should change your views or learn to live with resentment.

    June 20, 2013 at 7:54 pm
  12. Chris says:

    I’m not speaking for PLAL or the pro-choice movement – just my own opinion.

    Kenneth – The relevant portion of the quote was included to make the appropriate point above about the pictures of aborted babies. If someone is against torturing animals or against war, they have a right to show the victims of it as evidence to the general public. No different in the pro-life movement. Plus, there are actually more graphic pictures than the ones used on the PLAL signs. If anything, PLAL is holding back the full reality of abortion. If you think the pictures are bad, I’m sure it’s a lot worse in person, especially when they are laying out the arms, legs, ribs, head, etc. to make sure they got all the parts. It’s not like the abortion workers can ignore it in these later term abortions, they have to look to make sure they didn’t leave any part of the baby in the mother or else she could get really sick. One doctor does his best to keep the fetus intact to hold as part of the grief process:

    “One of the main differences for third trimester patients having a pregnancy terminated for fetal anomaly is that they may wish to have an intact fetus that they can examine and hold as part of the grief process.”

    http://www.drhern.com/en/abortion-services/third-trimester-abortion.html

    Betsy – Hope all is well. I share your disgust. Anyone that murders, fire bombs, etc. doesn’t deserve the name pro-life, anti-abortion, anti-choice, abolitionist, etc. They should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. I hope you agree that anyone in the name of choice that does something similar is not truly pro-choice, pro-abortion, anti-life, etc. The whole reason why someone is pro-life is that they’re against the unjustified use of force against another living human being, which we believe abortion to be. While all these acts are horrible and should be unequivocally condemned by everyone from both sides, the number of deaths caused by ppl in the name of pro-life (again, I refuse to acknowledge that they are really pro-life) is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than the number of deaths caused by the pro-choice side. That’s because abortion takes a human life and abortion is the leading cause of death in the US.
    Compare:
    http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6108a1.htm?s_cid=ss6108a1_w

    This doesn’t justify anyone taking human life. It puts into perspective though that the tragedy of homicide is in the millions on the pro-choice side, to epidemic levels. Plus the pro-choice side condones it and even celebrates it. Not so on the pro-life side.

    As far as the sidewalk counselor – their goal is to give information to the pregnant mom that the abortion clinic won’t give because it’s against their financial interests. The information is in the best interest of informing the pregnant mom so they can make an informed decision in a tough situation. They are attempting to provide information that otherwise the patient would not get. You characterize it with the word harassment. I think that’s insensitive to people that have actually experienced harassment. I’m sure for some it’s an annoyance to be provided information they were not expecting, but the decision she is making a HUGE one. It’s an irreversible one. Many women that go into the clinic know it’s a baby and they know in their heart and soul that they’re walking in with a baby and they’re walking out without one.
    For example:
    http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/39924-professional-athlete-kills-baby-for-the-sake-of-volleyball-career
    http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-c-lower-macugie-mother-attacks-pregnant-daughte-20130612,0,7878917.story

    They’ve got pressure from their parents, boyfriend, friends, etc. They may want to keep the baby or are really undecided, but are going in out of a sense of obligation to their boyfriend, parents, etc. Many pregnant moms feel forced by their circumstances and, in a sense, they’re undergoing a coerced abortion based on either ppl or circumstances and they don’t know where else to go for help. So, we feel instead of leaving the pregnant mother to make such a big decision with less information, it’s more reasonable to share information with the pregnant mom. I think it’s a great opportunity to let her know about adoption services, free charities that will help her, shelters to help her if she is in a domestic violence situation, etc. I say, let the pregnant mom choose if she wants more free info or not. She’s intelligent and fully capable of hearing both sides and making a decision.

    Regarding vasectomies and your friend that had a dead fetus removed (sorry to hear about that, very sad) – neither of those procedures took a human life. So, I don’t think either one should be illegal. Once a human life is created (at fertilization) – something REALLY important has happened. That human life has great value. Vasectomies prevent fertilization, so that’s not killing a human life just like refraining from intercourse isn’t killing a human life. Having a dead fetus removed is not killing a human life either. So, I agree with you, that should stay legal (nice to find some common ground!). I previously addressed your question about people outside a hospital asking me not to do something because they felt it’s against Gods will. People have a right to do that. Honestly, I think this is an area we can agree on. That I should be able to be free to speak, just as Katie is free to blog.

    I’m really sorry to hear about your sisters loss. That’s a tough situation. There are real life tough situations like the one you brought up and also the ones commonly referred to such as life of the mother, rape and incest. But the vast majority of abortions are really a form of birth control. An alarming percent are repeat abortions (over 35%). About 20% of babies conceived in IL are aborted.
    http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/states/illinois/
    http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

    The extreme and rare cases while relevant to the conversation on which exceptions should be in abortion laws, it is not relevant when talking about the legality of the vast majority of abortions which are not like your sisters situation. Betsy, you could be proud of being pro-choice for these extreme circumstances while being proud of being pro-life in the case where there’s consensual sex resulting in a healthy human being. Something to consider.

    You mentioned how you became pro-choice. That’s a very personal experience. It’s interesting too for me because I used to be pro-choice. I became pro-life after I came to the reality that abortion is the taking of a human life. This certainly was not an easy concept to digest at first. But more and more as I studied what is being aborted, there’s no way around it. A human life is taken behind the doors of every abortion clinic. People try to make various distinctions to make the baby before they’re born really a form of “property” and if we’re honest about it, those distinctions are arbitrary. We would never come up with them unless we had something to gain. We never apply those distinctions to people already born and we wouldn’t if we could. It’s just an excuse to take a human life. What it means to be pro-life is to say that all human life has value. No excuses, no apologies. If we view the baby prior to birth as having the same inherit value as a baby after they’re born, I cannot see how any of us could say these abortions should continue at the current alarming rate.

    June 20, 2013 at 8:07 pm
  13. MJ says:

    Kenneth, a point that you and other “pro-choice” people hang your hat on is “the right to choose what to do with one’s own body.” The body of the unborn child is separate from the mother’s body. Abortion is a violation of the baby’s right to choose what to do with his/her own body; he she never had the chance to choose.

    June 20, 2013 at 8:33 pm
  14. Matt Yonke says:

    Ken — I’m sorry, but I don’t think your reading of the abortion doula holds up. Her point is that the pictures pro-lifers use are generally accurate. Obviously she’s not vouching for every picture held by any pro-lifer ever, but here are the signs we use which were the particular type cited and pictured in Katie’s original post. Let me know what you think is inaccurate about them.

    That out of the way, I’m open and ready to hear about any of the lies you found in my post.

    June 20, 2013 at 8:45 pm
  15. Betsy says:

    Chris (and later, MJ),

    I will start with this statement: “The whole reason why someone is pro-life is that they’re against the unjustified use of force against another living human being, which we believe abortion to be.” This proves that the anti-choice people are really missing the facts. There is no “force against another living human being”. The human being only exists once it has been born. Until that time, it is a fetus, nothing more.

    Secondly, you state: “As far as the sidewalk counselor – their goal is to give information to the pregnant mom that the abortion clinic won’t give because it’s against their financial interests. The information is in the best interest of informing the pregnant mom so they can make an informed decision in a tough situation.” Not every single woman who enters a clinic is a “pregnant mom” as some are women seeking Well Woman Care and other types of treatment. You are assuming something that you have no right or business to assume. You also have no access to any of the clinic’s financial materials so this is fabricated and subjective.

    You post: “Regarding vasectomies and your friend that had a dead fetus removed (sorry to hear about that, very sad) – neither of those procedures took a human life. So, I don’t think either one should be illegal.” So you are pro-choice, Chris, as abortion is not taking a human life. It is removing a fetus that is not a human being until it is born. You have your own ‘belief’ about this but read exactly as written, this statement makes you pro-choice.

    You post: “I previously addressed your question about people outside a hospital asking me not to do something because they felt it’s against Gods will. People have a right to do that.” My scenario did not discuss the groups’ right to speak, yes, they do have that right; however, do they have a right to block your entrance or hinder your entrance or otherwise interfere with your entry into a facility? No they do not! You may think that this would be a perfectly fine situation to encounter but obviously, you have never had to cross a picket line.

    You write: “There are real life tough situations like the one you brought up and also the ones commonly referred to such as life of the mother, rape and incest. But the vast majority of abortions are really a form of birth control.” You post a link to an article that I will not read as it is from a pro-life perspective and will be based on pro-life leaning percentages.

    This one is my favorite, though, Chris: “Betsy, you could be proud of being pro-choice for these extreme circumstances while being proud of being pro-life in the case where there’s consensual sex resulting in a healthy human being. Something to consider.” You miscomprehend the law and totally misunderstand everything that I stand to uphold: The woman’s right to choose. You cannot pick and choose portions of the law that you believe in and parts that you do not because when you do, you are telling a woman that she cannot choose for herself. She has the right to choose.

    The bottom line is as I have said before, anti-choice people are not interested in real life situations that require hard and sometimes unpleasant real-world solutions. That may mean abortion, if you all were truly “pro-life” you would want abortion to be safe and legal for those who may have to choose that step. Pro-choice means safe and legal access to a procedure that no one takes lightly. Remember safe and legal.

    To MJ, you stated: “Kenneth, a point that you and other “pro-choice” people hang your hat on is “the right to choose what to do with one’s own body.”” That is the whole point of being pro-choice.

    June 21, 2013 at 10:51 am
  16. Kenneth Houseman says:

    Here here, Betsy! You said that better than I could have.

    And MJ, thanks for, at the very least, using my name, “Kenneth,” whereas the author of the article seems to think he knows me well enough to call me Ken (not my name – never has been). How tactless.

    June 21, 2013 at 11:02 am
  17. Matt Yonke says:

    Kenneth — My apologies. I think I got confused with that first commenter, last name “Kent”, but either way it was sloppy.

    But I’m eager to get into the lies and distortions in my post! Did you have one in mind?

    June 21, 2013 at 11:46 am
  18. Matt Yonke says:

    Betsy — Thanks for the comments. You said:

    “The human being only exists once it has been born. Until that time, it is a fetus, nothing more.”

    Actually, a child in the womb is termed a fetus once it’s 8 weeks old. Before that it’s passed through several stages of development.

    But that’s all they are, stages of development in a human being. Just like toddler, adolescent, tween, teenager, adult or elderly, they’re all labels for stages in the life of a human being.

    So a fetus (which is just Latin for “little one”, btw) is a human fetus, just like a teenager isn’t something distinct from a human being, it’s a human teenager.

    I know you don’t believe size or level of development are reasons that make it ok to kill a human being, so what do you believe is different about a fetus than a toddler or teenager that makes it ok for us to kill her?

    June 21, 2013 at 1:49 pm
  19. Betsy says:

    Matt,

    You seem to be more concerned with whether or not Kenneth points out the lies and distortions yet you have not addressed my reply that outlines lies and distortions. I am eager to hear how you respond to my reply!

    June 21, 2013 at 1:52 pm
  20. Betsy says:

    “I know you don’t believe size or level of development are reasons that make it ok to kill a human being, so what do you believe is different about a fetus than a toddler or teenager that makes it ok for us to kill her?”

    Matt, if I have deciphered this statement correctly, I will respond: Yes, there are different stages of development of the fetus. Again, not a human being until it is actually birthed, born and breathing on its own. Neither toddler nor teenager is a fetus.

    You have still not addressed most of my post, which indicates to me that my assertions are fact.

    June 21, 2013 at 1:56 pm
  21. Kenneth Houseman says:

    Matt, I am confused as to why you continue to question me when Betsy has pointed out various lies and inaccuracies with your blog which you ignore. Perhaps you have trouble listening to women (as I can only assume you do, seeing as you believe an unborn fetus has more rights than a pregnant mother): in that case, let me re-post some of Betsy’s all too accurate criticisms of your argument, so you can read them as though they were written by a man. Then perhaps you’ll take them more seriously.

    Matt:

    “Oh, Katie. Come now. I don’t want to intimidate you or anyone else. That’s totally against my principles and simply not the way I roll. Unlike the pro-abortion people who threw a brick through the window of my employers’ home, or physically assaulted them, or vandalized our offices or vandalized a pro-life billboard and firebombed a pro-life bus in Rockford.”

    So anti-choice ‘advocates’ that murder doctors or fire bomb clinics or intimidate patients (again, no one at PLAL will actually address any of my specific questions so I am fairly certain I will not get an answer now) do not exist? This is NOT the way you “roll”? It is absolutely the way you “roll”.

    Matt, since you seem to believe that you have been given this ‘mission’ by some higher authority (I refuse to use God’s name here as this is positively against any, any teaching of Jesus Christ!), why are you not outside of clinics that perform vasectomies? Shouldn’t men have to ask permission before they cut off their sperm supply and thereby preventing many, many unborn from the gift of life? Another scenario that no one will address what you would do if you were confronted at a clinic by certain religious groups blocking your entrance to a hospital or clinic because their belief is that medical intervention is against “God’s will”?

    Any answer to those obvious exaggerations, lies, and inaccuracies from your original post? Or do you just want to dodge more questions?

    June 21, 2013 at 4:21 pm
  22. Kenneth Houseman says:

    Oh, and Matt, since you’re SO fixated on Katie I figured I’d repost this from her blog, because you seem to be confused when you say “a fetus (which is just Latin for ‘little one.'” (Wow, another lie? What a shocker)

    “The etymology you’re attempting traces back to a word that is not just used for mammals, but for plants. It means ‘the bearing, bringing forth, or hatching of young,’ from Latin base *fe- ‘to generate, bear,’ also ‘to suck, suckle.’ (Although, Horace, from whom we get a lot of our Latin history, grammar, etc. used it in a sense of ‘offspring, brood.’) It was more a description of the process that brings about life than the way we use its English form, which describes a specific period of development.”

    June 21, 2013 at 4:49 pm
  23. Kenneth Houseman says:

    What a surprise! Matt has responded to NONE of the obvious flaws Betsy (or anyone else for that matter) has brought to his attention. Too bad the silence on the “pro-life” side when confronted with dozens of valid arguments against their position is nothing new…

    June 22, 2013 at 12:22 pm
  24. Katie Klabusich says:

    If you’re honestly interested in my talking more, feel free to direct people to the “donate” button on the side panel at http://katiespeak.com. Donations from readers fund upgrades to the site and new equipment for radio appearances.
    Thanks!
    Life, Love and Choice,
    Katie Klabusich

    June 22, 2013 at 6:05 pm
  25. Kenneth Houseman says:

    Thanks for the tip Katie! I sent a donation – glad the PLAL website has finally done some good!

    June 23, 2013 at 2:52 pm
  26. Dominic Huber says:

    Like Matt, I am also prolife because I have found so many facts that have convinced me that abortion is wrong. Matt, not only does Planned Parenthood lie about the baby. They have also engaged in unethical and illegal acts. Prolifer,Mark Crutcher, and his team have uncovered many dangerous and immoral acts that abortion clinics have done. They have on http://www.childpredators.com/CoverUp.cfm covered up statutory rape crimes for money. On http://www.lifedynamics.com/Abortion_Information//Baby_Body_Parts/BabyParts2.cfm they also sold baby parts on the black market. I do not trust ppl and never will. That aside, unlike the ProChoice people, I believe that a fetus having more rights than the mother. Instead I believe the fetus has equal rights. No less rights or more rights than the mother.

    June 23, 2013 at 5:06 pm
  27. Dominic Huber says:

    By the way, the end sentences were meant to be,”Unlike the ProChoice side, I have a different view of fetus. Instead of having more rights, I believe they have equal rights.”

    June 23, 2013 at 5:09 pm
  28. Kenneth Houseman says:

    Wow Dominic – good job outing yourself as another pro-life asshole. “That aside, unlike the ProChoice people, I believe that a fetus having more rights than the mother.”

    At least you’re honest about your feelings!

    June 24, 2013 at 5:55 pm
  29. Brad says:

    Kenneth, are you really that blind?! Or are you just a stereotypical pro-choicer who loves to take comments out of context and twist their meanings to fit your agenda? Dominic made an error in his second-to-last sentence, big deal. His closing clearly says, “Instead I believe the fetus has equal rights. No less rights or more rights than the mother.”

    He then clarifies and says, “By the way, the end sentences were meant to be,’Unlike the ProChoice side, I have a different view of fetus. Instead of having more rights, I believe they have equal rights.'”

    You completely take what he says and pervert the whole meaning; how noble of you. And to add insult to injury you call him an “a**hole.” Weren’t you just crucifying the author of this article for not using an entire quote properly anyways? So now we have insults, deception, bigotry and hypocrisy; despicable and unsurprising at the same time. Thank you for being a pro-choicer.

    June 25, 2013 at 9:42 am
  30. Kenneth Houseman says:

    Wow Brad, thanks for the incredibly enlightening stuff! I hadn’t seen Dominic’s follow-up – perhaps I was so appalled by the first comment that my eyes skipped over it. I see his follow-up now though. Looks like he remains in favor of an unborn fetus’ rights rather than a pregnant woman’s, but is no longer admitting to it. How incredibly fascinating and relevant.

    June 26, 2013 at 2:49 pm
  31. I Want Katie Klabusich to Keep on Talking! | Pro-Life News says:

    […] I get it. Like I said in my post, the pictures make it clear that something awful is going on in each and every abortion and that requires a response. Katie’s response, along with many other pro-choice people, is to bury her head in the sand and misdirect people’s attention to other issues.[Continue reading … ] […]

    June 28, 2013 at 5:11 pm
  32. Dominic Huber says:

    Kenneth, I am not saying a fetus has more rights than the mother. I’m saying that the pregnant mother and her child have equal rights and that both need to be protected. I care about both the women and their unborn children. Abortion is by far the biggest mistake the Supreme Court ever made. One day abortion will be banned and I hope I’m alive to see it.

    By the way Brad, thank you for defending me. I appreciate it.

    July 2, 2013 at 12:40 pm
  33. Vanessa Lauren says:

    If the pictures are fake why don’t the pro choice protesters hold up signs of real aborted human fetuses? They should hold up the pictures of the body parts and take pride in what they advocate for. They should stop hiding behind rhetoric and personal attacks.

    July 18, 2013 at 10:41 am
  34. Eldon Kimball says:

    I consider myself pro life. That does not mean that I don’t feel each person must decide for themselves when life actually begins and not insist that others agree with them.
    What I don’t understand though, is why most of the pro life comments, demonstrations, and information is strictly about abortion. In fact, my impression is that the majority of these people participating in these discussions do not protest taking lives where there is no question about their being alive in every sense. When those people support killing men, women, and children anywhere in the world where we are sending soldiers, drones, and bombers, is that not hypocritical? It bad enough that grown men who disagree believe that it justifies killing each other, but when they kill old men, women, and even babies, who had nothing to do with the disagreement, should we not be demonstrating even stronger against that?

    July 18, 2013 at 6:12 pm
  35. Dispatches from the Sidewalk — Clinic Defense (NJ) 02/01/14 « KatieSpeak says:

    […] have quit a long time ago. Frankly, if they were any good at oppo research, they’d have found The Pro-Life Action League’s piece on me months ago. I expected to be greeted by name long before […]

    February 1, 2014 at 7:04 pm
  36. …wherein I answer the question “Where have you been??” « KatieSpeak says:

    […] outlet on the Right Wing Watch organization tracking list. So that’s new for me. The PLAL has writen about me before, but they’ve never plastered my face and name on their pages for 40 straight days without […]

    March 13, 2014 at 1:30 pm
  37. Hal Sparks Radio Pgm — ProLifeActionLeague Targeting & My Refusal to Shut Up (03/015/14) « KatieSpeak says:

    […] seem to decide with they want me to keep talking or renounce my wicked ways. First, they decry: I Want Katie Klabusich to Keep On Talking! complete with superlatives and a bastardization of my NOH8 photo, captioned “No, Katie! […]

    March 16, 2014 at 11:17 am
  38. Praying for Women, or Praying On Them? | PopularResistance.Org says:

    […] PLAL has written about me before, but they’ve never plastered my face and name on their pages for 40 straight days without […]

    May 21, 2014 at 6:05 pm
  39. Praying for Women, or Preying On Them? | Acronym TV says:

    […] PLAL has written about me before, but they’ve never plastered my face and name on their pages for 40 straight days without […]

    May 21, 2014 at 6:13 pm
  40. victory for giving birth says:

    How are the pro-choice activists meant to be taken serious when they have such radical approach in their conduct. I cannot believe that they threw a brick through your window. I mean how bad does it get? All this because they are so intent on killing precious life.

    June 15, 2014 at 4:39 am

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