Sorry folks, but your quest is a futile one. You can not force a woman to give birth if she can not or does not want to. PERIOD. There are other ways and we will always find them, as we always have. Even if you managed to end abortion, you’ll simply discover an article one day discussing the possible environmental links to the suddenly high rates of miscarriage. We’ll all just blame it on fast food or pollution and go on with our lives in peace. You’d never be consulted on it or have a chance to interfere with it.

The right to choose is inalienable – not your to make for anyone or take from anyone.

I accidentally posted the same stuff twice. The second lot had more than the first because the first one did not include stuff that I felt was spurious and of no value. When I uploaded the first lot everything just went blank. That’s when I just basically ‘dumped’ all the material I had on the second post – then the ‘moderation’ comment appeared. So you can just ignore the second lot if you wish, it’s up to you.

Thanks,

Matt

If abortion is intrinsicly evil, and persisted on, faith in a deity will end indeed, and then abortion will be seen for what it is!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiEgnfYPEXQ

http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=KXr8UazYJgg&feature=related

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sacredactivism/message/876

http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/new_video_crisis_pregnancy_centers/

http://www.naralva.org/action/~1.shtml

‘Abortion causes breast cancer.’
‘You’ll never be able to have children again if you have an abortion.’
‘Condoms don’t work.’
“The abortion pill, RU-486 is dangerous and not medically safe for women.”
“Birth Control and Emergency Contraception (the Morning-After Pill) are abortants.”
“Abortion causes permanent psychological and mental damage, including Post-Abortion Syndrome.”
Abortions cost much more than carrying your baby to term.”
“Surgical abortion can kill you.”
“You have plenty of time to make a decision. One-third of all pregnancies end in miscarriages anyway.”
“Your baby can already smell, and hear you.”

CPCs have created Google business listings and categorized themselves as abortion clinics. In other situations, they list “abortion services and referrals” and “contraception referrals” under their services.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXr8UazYJgg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiEgnfYPEXQ

Then there are the lies:

‘Abortion causes breast cancer.’
‘You’ll never be able to have children again if you have an abortion.’
‘Condoms don’t work.’
“The abortion pill, RU-486 is dangerous and not medically safe for women.”
“Birth Control and Emergency Contraception (the Morning-After Pill) are abortants.”
“Abortion causes permanent psychological and mental damage, including Post-Abortion Syndrome.”
Abortions cost much more than carrying your baby to term.”
“Surgical abortion can kill you.”
“You have plenty of time to make a decision. One-third of all pregnancies end in miscarriages anyway.”
“Your baby can already smell, and hear you.”

CPCs have created Google business listings and categorized themselves as abortion clinics. In other situations, they list “abortion services and referrals” and “contraception referrals” under their services.

I came across a few other things though:

‘Live Action has admitted that its own members had to pose as underage children who claimed to have been raped in order to obtain these incriminating videos. In other words, in order to obtain these videos, these pro-life advocates have routinely lied about their age, lied about their medical condition, and lied about the circumstances of their visit to the abortion clinics.’

and

http://www.abortionaccess.info/chooselie.htm
She gives me the same answer I got at JMJ Life Center: “Up to nine months. You can walk in the day before your due date and get one. There’s no law about it.”
As mentioned earlier, that is simply not true. Under Florida Statute 390.0111, the law states that third-trimester abortion is only permitted “to save the life or preserve the health” of a pregnant woman, and that a physician must attest to such a circumstance in writing.
Another item on the abortion safety checklist from A Center for Women warns that abortion providers and clinics are not required to be licensed, implying that any charlatan with a rusty knife is free to perform abortions without consequence.
Again, not true. The law is clearly spelled out in Florida Statute 797.03(2): “It is unlawful for any person or public body to establish, conduct, manage, or operate an abortion clinic without a valid current license.”
And to put Melissa’s contention that abortion is a “money industry” in perspective, fees to adopt healthy infants can run as high as $30,000; my former OB/GYN charged $10,000 for prenatal care and delivery; and an abortion costs about $350.

Center for Pregnancy is an “integrated auxiliary” of the First Baptist Church of Orlando. It is, essentially, an arm of the church, yet it receives public funds from the “Choose Life” tag.
I give them a urine sample and am told my pregnancy test will take 40 minutes. (Pregnancy tests generally take about five minutes.) I ask them if I can leave and come back for the results. The staffer says no.
About 10 minutes later, two women — “Jesse” and “Maria” — take me into a room. Within two minutes Maria asks, “What are your attitudes on abortion?”
I object to the question. “Why do I need to answer that? I just came in for a pregnancy test. Can’t I just have my results?”
Jesse assures me, “Well, we’re here to help you.”
“That’s fine,” I say. “But why is the test taking so long?”
Jesse loses patience with me.
“Look, we’re here to help you,” she says, “to help you to decide what to do if you are pregnant.”
I’m irritated with her. “I just want to know my results!”

And why are Crisis Pregnancy Centers listed under ‘abortion’?

There are many more examples of this available.
It would appear that both sides are guilty of lies and subterfuge, the evidence is out there.

But you know what. It’s not going to change things. Abortion always has, does and will occur. Faith in a deity will end before abortion does.

I know I didn’t post it. Perhaps the others implied it. I would never say that abortion clinics don’t “allow” other choices. It’s just not good business.

It’s like what they say about going to a surgeon for medical advice. It just might involve surgery.