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Jill Stanek reported yesterday that the pro-choice blog RH Reality Check has decided to scuttle “On Common Ground,” its disingenuous attempt to find the ever elusive compromise between the two sides in the abortion debate less than a year after its launch.
Calls for “common ground” like those issued by RH Reality Check are doomed to fail, because inevitably one of the first proposed measures is increased encouragement of and funding for contraception — which is an absolute non-starter.
Not long after learning of RH Reality Check’s decision to abort “On Common Ground”, I learned (via Pro-Life Florida) that Orlando abortionist Randall Whitney had been arrested earlier this year for slapping one of his patients as he was preparing her for an abortion.
If the “pro-choice” movement were truly interested in finding “common ground,” they might start here: Denouncing creepy abortionists like Whitney would surely be something that both sides in the abortion debate can agree on. Right?
After all, if the major “pro-choice” organizations really cared about women, wouldn’t we expect them to lead the charge condemning Whitney’s act of slapping a woman he was preparing for an abortion?
In a word: No.
As of this writing, there is nary a mention of Randall Whitney on the websites of NOW, NARAL, or Planned Parenthood.
For but one other example, recall the Philadelphia abortion facility run by Kermit Gosnell, where a woman died following an abortion last fall. A few months later, following an investigation into Gosnell’s facility, state authorities suspended his license and ordered his facility closed after they discovered “deplorable and unsanitary conditions” therein.
As of this writing, there is no mention of Gosnell’s name on any of the Big Three “pro-choice” organizations’ websites either.
Calling out the thugs and hacks in the abortion industry should be something both pro-life and “pro-choice” organizations can agree on.
Yet the latter have no interest. So much for their being pro-woman.
And so much for “common ground”.
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“Ocean” let the cat out of the bag, so to speak, when he (or she) is response to the statement:
Freedom is not the right to do what one wants.
Freedom is the right to do what one ought.
His (or her) response was a very strong, “Freedom is what I want!”
Reflecting upon this it seems clear that “what is good for women, foundamently” is NOT THE driving force of “pro-choice”.
Also above “pro-choice” mentality, when it’s proven that this behavior would lead to “destruction of the future”…….i.e., negative population growth.
Again, their response, perhaps they not even realizeing it, is “So be it”……”the human race may die out, but the important thing is ‘I did it MY way…..my want!!!’”
Thus, occasional “forced abortion”, “unsafe conditions” are somewhat incidental.
Posted June 8, 2010 at 5:59 pm
“Calls for “common ground” like those issued by RH Reality Check are doomed to fail, because inevitably one of the first proposed measures is increased encouragement of and funding for contraception — which is an absolute non-starter.”
Amen! Amen! Amen!
Posted June 8, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Pro-Choice: Live long and die out!
Pro-Life: Live and let live!
Posted June 8, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Wow. You’ve convinced the likes of Jerry Vilt. He seems like a very reasonable fellow. And very articulate too! Good for you!
Posted June 8, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Years ago a friend and pro-life leader in rescue of all things, joined a Common Ground group. I pointed out that “visiting” a clinic while it is open and “running” and NOT protesting was absurd at best and immoral at worst. She left the group soon after.
Posted June 9, 2010 at 7:34 am
Let’s say a Dentist sexually assaults a woman under anesthesia ( as seen recently in the news – he was cleared by the way), would you see every dentists office posting information about it? Doubtful, because it would cause fear and mistrust in patients, when the vast majority of Dentists are good people providing a necessary service. How can you expect Planned Parenthood to broadcast the embarrassing situation of an inappropriate and in-compassionate physician when the vast majority of their staff are decent people?
Every year, beginning long before even modern medicine, women have sought abortions in certain situations. Whether abortion is legal or not, abortions will continue. When abortion is legal, at least fewer women die from serious sanitary issues and they are receiving proper medical care. It is a very sad thing when a woman is at the point that she must make a choice such as abortion. Where is the compassion for these women? We pass such harsh judgment, and they get more compassion and understanding from a Planned Parenthood staff member while they were berated and scoffed and spit at while walking into the office seeking help. What would you choose? Side with the cruel, judgmental people throwing God’s condemnation at them, or fall into the arms of a caring nurse and cry about the decision you feel you have to make? I am happy to see more crisi pregnancy centers that offer viable options to women in these situations, with compassion and understanding. Perhaps Pro-life should change their tactics from fear-mongering and violent images to ones that focus on the woman who is in crisis and see if their message is better received.
Posted June 12, 2010 at 12:25 am
Dentists work is intrinsicly good (Pro-Choice & Pro-Life in agreement!)
Abortion (PP) is intrinsicly evil (Pro-Choice & Pro-Life disagree……and the killing continues!)
And the killing is of the future of the human species!
Posted June 12, 2010 at 10:08 am
And the killing is eliminating the future of the human species!
Posted June 12, 2010 at 10:19 am
And the killing is eliminating the human species!
Posted June 13, 2010 at 12:57 pm
recap:
Contraception and abortion, being the destruction of the future of the human race, (in cataclysmic proportions), is the worst evil the world has ever known.
Posted June 13, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Jerry… If contraception and abortion = the end of the human race…then why are officials concerned about overpopulation? Why are there restrictions on how many children can be born to families in some countries? I think there are some faults with your statements. Sounds like propaganda from the Catholic Church.
Posted June 14, 2010 at 6:30 pm
“why are officials concerned about overpopulation?”
Huh!
A dozen European countries are experiencing negative population growth……they are NOT replacing their population.
Japan is in drastic under population replacement!
See “Abortion/Anti-abortion Strategies” in the Forum……Page 5…..Japan…..land of the rising son is now land of the setting sun…..very sad!
“Population explosion” is a myth!…..the world was never overpopulated.
China “one child per family” resulted in 400,000,000 forced abortions!
China has 65,000,000 more males than females!
Russia is paying couples to have babies……but they still may not recover…..their population is shrinking!
Posted June 14, 2010 at 8:43 pm
To maintain present population levels, 2.1 children per couple is required.
Dozens of countries are not reaching this level!
Posted June 14, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Cheri, here is link to Japan article:
http://www.ncregister.com/site/print_article/22739/
Posted June 15, 2010 at 1:24 am
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/18/birth-rate-us-baby-boomers take a look at recent statistics for the US.
Posted June 15, 2010 at 10:55 am
And look at how our children fare… http://www.clasp.org/admin/site/publications/files/child-welfare-financing-united-states-2010.pdf
and then I say to you that we need to solve some very big problems with families in this country. I would say to you that attacking people who choose abortion is pointless, when there is little love being given to these people in the first place. If these women had a support system that encouraged their own health, mental health, safe relationships, security, LOVE, etc. Would we see so many unwanted pregnancies? Or would people begin to make better choices before being met with an unwanted pregnancy? Try love instead of hate and fear. Try understanding and acceptance instead of condemnation.
Posted June 15, 2010 at 11:03 am
I wish that instead of standing on our rooftops and scornfully preaching to those beneath us, that we would invest a little of ourselves into people.
It is not the magnitude of our actions but the amount of love that is put into them that matters.
Mother Teresa
Posted June 15, 2010 at 11:22 am
If we face what seems to be a insurmountable problem (poverty, violence, lack of parenting) rather then just trying harder, (even though we seem to be fighting a losing battle) to solve the problem; let’s kill ‘em instead (contraception and abortion)…….both ways solve the first problem, do they not?
Posted June 15, 2010 at 1:20 pm
quoting the end of your #16:
“Try love instead of hate and fear. Try understanding and acceptance instead of condemnation.”
Pro-Life is all about not killing the co-creating of a new human being (contraception) and not killing to unborn creation of a new human being (abortion).
This is hate, fear, condemnation!!!
Posted June 15, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Abortion is against creation.
Contraception is against creating.
Posted June 15, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Contraception is the root cause of abortion.
Posted June 15, 2010 at 5:01 pm
How do you figure?? If people use contraception, how will they have an unwanted pregnancy?? Your statements are very odd to me… I am done.
Posted June 20, 2010 at 4:11 pm
the “contraceptive mentality”. The “mindset” of one who uses contraceptives is that of killing (aborting the reproductive process)……..thus when conception occurs (in spite of contraception), one is already disposed to killing the new human being, also (abortion).
Posted June 21, 2010 at 9:20 am
50% of abortions are the result of failed contraception. (see the connection?)
Posted June 21, 2010 at 9:35 am
restating above:
1. Contraception is the killing, (aborting the reproductive process), of a potential unborn human being. (potential human being is the reproductive process itself)
2. Abortion is the killing of an actual unborn human being.
Contraception, being prior, is the root cause of abortion.
Contraception and abortion are both abortions!
(a semantic peculiarity but true, nevertheless)
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Posted April 28, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Cheri, the reason that jerrys reasoning is strange to you is that you have never really researched the subject. Contraception fails VERY often, and people who use contraception outside of marriage are more disposed to have casual sex, without preparation for the possible outcome, so they are more likely to have an abortion when contraception fails..which happens, a LOT. ESPECIALLY if you use the Planned parenthood passed out varieties, which fail much more often than average.. coincidence that they lose money on contraceptives and make it on abortions AND they pass out faulty condoms? I dont think so. And what Jerry quoted above is correct the world has NEVER been in a population crisis, the people who manipulate statistics to show a problem are usually those who are concerned that the POOR are becoming too numerous for them to handle… not because it is not good to be poor, but because the poor are inconvenient to the middle class.. and often the poor are also black.. and of course black people cannot be allowed to become populous.. they may get to the position where they are no longer the minority, and we cannot have THAT now can we. Research the beginnings of “planned parenthood” aka “the eugenics society” one day.. key word, “margaret sanger” You will either be shocked and appauled, or you will already know and make up some reason why it isnt what we think it is… surprise me.
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